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⚡️GPT5-Codex-Max: Training Agents with Personality, Tools & Trust — Brian Fioca + Bill Chen, OpenAI
Dec 26, 2025 · 27:46
OpenAI’s Brian Fioca and Bill Chen discuss the launch of Codex Max, a long-running coding agent designed to work 24+ hours, manage its own context, and spawn sub-agents. They reveal how GPT-5 training prioritized personality traits—communication, planning, and self-checking—to build developer trust, and how Codex develops tool habits like preferring 'rg' over 'grep'. The abstraction layer is shifting from models to full-stack agents, enabling partners to plug Codex into tools like VS Code or Zed. They highlight applied evals that measure real-world impact over academic benchmarks, and the need for multi-turn eval APIs. Their 2026 vision: coding agents trusted enough to handle the hardest refactors at any company, not just top-tier firms, and general enough to automate personal workflows like organizing desktops or email.

Windsurf: The Enterprise AI IDE
Dec 13, 2024 · 1:06:36
Varun Mohan and Anshul of Codeium explain why they built Windsurf, a new AI IDE, arguing that VS Code's API limitations prevented them from delivering the best agentic experience. They detail how Cascade, their agentic system, uses proprietary retrieval and planning models alongside third-party LLMs, and describe their evaluation method that masks commits and tests incomplete code states. The duo also reveals that over 800,000 developers use Codeium extensions, that they still support JetBrains and Eclipse for enterprise customers, and that they intentionally avoided a waitlist launch. They discuss the trade-offs of building first-party vs. third-party models, the importance of 'go slow to go fast' in enterprise infrastructure, and their belief that individual developer profits should come after building switching costs through superior product.
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